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'''Syntonic Comma''' (also known as the '''Didymus comma''' or '''meantone comma''') is a small musical interval, specifically a type of [[comma (music)|comma]], that is mathematically represented as the frequency ratio 81:80. This interval, approximately equal to 21.51 cents, plays a significant role in the theory and practice of [[tuning systems]], particularly in the context of [[Just Intonation]] and [[Meantone temperament]].
== Syntonic Comma ==


==Definition==
The '''syntonic comma''' is a small musical interval that is the difference between two different tuning systems: [[just intonation]] and [[Pythagorean tuning]]. It is an important concept in the study of [[musical temperament]] and [[intonation]].
The syntonic comma arises in musical tuning systems when comparing the sizes of major thirds. In [[Pythagorean tuning]], which is based on a stack of perfect fifths, the major third (from C to E, for example) is slightly larger than the sum of two whole tones (from C to D and D to E). This discrepancy is due to the fact that the Pythagorean major third is derived from four perfect fifths (C-G-D-A-E), resulting in a ratio of 81:64, whereas the just major third, more consonant to the human ear, has a simpler ratio of 5:4 (80:64). The difference between these two intervals is the syntonic comma.


==Historical Context==
[[File:Syntonic_comma_on_C.png|thumb|right|Syntonic comma on C]]
The syntonic comma has been a subject of interest since the ancient Greek theorists, but it was particularly noted by Didymus and Ptolemy in their explorations of musical tuning. The awareness of this interval influenced the development of various tuning systems throughout history, including meantone temperament, which attempts to temper the syntonic comma in order to achieve more consonant thirds.


==Impact on Tuning Systems==
== Definition ==
In the context of [[Meantone temperament]], the syntonic comma is tempered, meaning it is distributed among several intervals to reduce its dissonance. This is achieved by narrowing the fifths slightly, which in turn makes the major thirds closer to the pure ratio of 5:4. This compromise allows for more consonant harmonies in a wider range of keys than Pythagorean tuning, though it introduces slight impurities in other intervals.


[[Just Intonation]] also deals with the syntonic comma, but rather than tempering it, this system embraces the pure intervals, including the pure major third. This results in a tuning system that can be highly consonant in certain keys but may lead to significant dissonances in others, due to the accumulation of syntonic commas.
The syntonic comma is defined as the difference between a [[justly intonated]] [[major third]] and a [[Pythagorean major third]]. In terms of frequency ratios, the just major third is 5:4, while the Pythagorean major third is 81:64. The syntonic comma is therefore the ratio 81:80.


==Mathematical Description==
== Calculation ==
Mathematically, the syntonic comma can be described as the difference between two kinds of major thirds: the Pythagorean major third (81:64) and the just major third (5:4). This difference is calculated as the ratio 81:80. When expressed in cents, a logarithmic measure of intervals, the syntonic comma is approximately 21.51 cents.


==Conclusion==
Mathematically, the syntonic comma can be calculated as follows:
The syntonic comma is a fundamental concept in the study of musical tuning, illustrating the compromises and choices made in the development of musical scales and temperaments. Its existence highlights the complexity of achieving consonance within a musical system and the intricate balance between mathematical ratios and perceptual qualities of sound.
 
\[
\text{Syntonic comma} = \frac{81}{80} = \frac{(3/2)^4}{(5/4)}
\]
 
This ratio represents a very small interval, approximately 21.51 cents, which is slightly larger than a [[quarter tone]].
 
== Musical Implications ==
 
The presence of the syntonic comma has significant implications for musical tuning systems. In [[just intonation]], intervals are tuned to simple whole number ratios, which results in pure-sounding harmonies. However, when using [[Pythagorean tuning]], which is based on stacking [[perfect fifths]], the syntonic comma arises as a discrepancy.
 
[[File:Just_perfect_fifth_on_D.png|thumb|left|Just perfect fifth on D]]
 
In practice, this means that if one tunes a series of perfect fifths starting from a given note, the resulting major third will be slightly sharper than the just major third. This discrepancy must be addressed in [[temperament]] systems, such as [[equal temperament]], which distribute the syntonic comma across multiple intervals to achieve a more uniform tuning.
 
== Audio Examples ==
 
* [[File:Syntonic_comma_on_C.mid|Syntonic comma on C]]
* [[File:Just_perfect_fifth_on_D.mid|Just perfect fifth on D]]
* [[File:Major_tone_on_C.mid|Major tone on C]]
 
== Visual Representations ==
 
[[File:Syntonic_comma_on_C_HE_notation.png|thumb|right|Syntonic comma on C in Helmholtz-Ellis notation]]
 
The syntonic comma can be visually represented in various musical notations. For example, in [[Helmholtz-Ellis notation]], specific symbols are used to indicate microtonal adjustments, such as the syntonic comma.
 
== Related Concepts ==
 
* [[Pythagorean comma]]
* [[Just intonation]]
* [[Equal temperament]]
* [[Musical temperament]]
 
== Related Pages ==
 
* [[Pythagorean tuning]]
* [[Just intonation]]
* [[Musical temperament]]
* [[Cents (music)]]


[[Category:Music theory]]
[[Category:Musical tuning]]
[[Category:Musical tuning]]
[[Category:Musical intervals]]
[[Category:Intervals (music)]]
 
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Latest revision as of 14:17, 21 February 2025

Syntonic Comma[edit]

The syntonic comma is a small musical interval that is the difference between two different tuning systems: just intonation and Pythagorean tuning. It is an important concept in the study of musical temperament and intonation.

Syntonic comma on C

Definition[edit]

The syntonic comma is defined as the difference between a justly intonated major third and a Pythagorean major third. In terms of frequency ratios, the just major third is 5:4, while the Pythagorean major third is 81:64. The syntonic comma is therefore the ratio 81:80.

Calculation[edit]

Mathematically, the syntonic comma can be calculated as follows:

\[ \text{Syntonic comma} = \frac{81}{80} = \frac{(3/2)^4}{(5/4)} \]

This ratio represents a very small interval, approximately 21.51 cents, which is slightly larger than a quarter tone.

Musical Implications[edit]

The presence of the syntonic comma has significant implications for musical tuning systems. In just intonation, intervals are tuned to simple whole number ratios, which results in pure-sounding harmonies. However, when using Pythagorean tuning, which is based on stacking perfect fifths, the syntonic comma arises as a discrepancy.

Just perfect fifth on D

In practice, this means that if one tunes a series of perfect fifths starting from a given note, the resulting major third will be slightly sharper than the just major third. This discrepancy must be addressed in temperament systems, such as equal temperament, which distribute the syntonic comma across multiple intervals to achieve a more uniform tuning.

Audio Examples[edit]

Visual Representations[edit]

Syntonic comma on C in Helmholtz-Ellis notation

The syntonic comma can be visually represented in various musical notations. For example, in Helmholtz-Ellis notation, specific symbols are used to indicate microtonal adjustments, such as the syntonic comma.

Related Concepts[edit]

Related Pages[edit]